Does global warming exist?

[johnnyD]

There are some idiots who think global warming doesn't exist!!! :eek:

What are they thinking? Why? How do they think logically?

[jonathon]

The best we can do as individuals is be more responsible ,in our own neck of the woods Organize well publicized clean up parties ,talk on the radio, have citizen meetings, I agree, we're being shamed into paying ever more, and the money is being wasted on burocracy, asylum seekers, the Olympics, the War and so on, ever more taxes for ever reducing public services, but Get the schools involved to plant trees and listen to environmental awareness talks, If you do any cleaning up leave signs behind saying who cleaned,why and ask people not to start dumping rubbish again ,leave a hole or bins ,in case people come with trash cans.

[RBseatown]

I believe in global warming. I can understand why some dont, because there is evidence to support it. All of the planets in our solar system are experiencing a warming now as well, but I definetely think that we aren't helping the situation whatsoever.

[themarkofpolo]

One thing to clear up; global climate change is a more accurate description than global warming. While the Earth may be (un)naturally warming overall, changes throughout the globe may be variable. Certain areas will get, warmer, cooler, wetter or drier.

Nonetheless, many still believe it doesn't exist. Humankind has the power to move mountains, make islands, wipe out forests, build vast metropolitan areas, and much else. Our powerful actions aren't enough to destroy the planet, but they may be enough to make the Earth less human-dominated.

I agree with jonathon. Thinking globally by acting locally is the best way to push the issue, or at least push local conservation efforts. People are more likely to act when they or their neighbor's land is at risk.

[reviewer]

Global climate change is pretty well accepted by everyone with any credibility. The question is, what role do humans have in it? This is referred to as 'anthropomorphic global climate change'.

[Kin_Free]

To those who think that Global warming is real - Please read this - It is an article by Dr David Evans who was a consultant to the Australian Greenhouse Office from 1999 to 2005. (very well qualified in global warming science) You may find it very informative.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24036736-7583,00.html

You should be aware that Global Warming is being used as a vehicle to engender fear and subsequent passive compliance of the population so governments can impose any number of restrictions on your life, claim more revenue, and enact more laws to control YOU. It ranks along with the fear of terrorism eg surveillance, ID cards, DNA database etc. (Just watch what the response is to the Mumbai terrorist situation) and the fear of health - eg smoking ban, tax on alcohol, and 'clamp down' on 'binge drinking'. They are all intended to produce 'moral panics' - all a form of brainwashing. Do not fall for it!!

You should also note that in EVERY occasion they NEVER have sufficient evidence but rely on constant propaganda that you are subjected to daily - so you will do what you are told - to save the planet, protect you from terrorists, and filthy carcinogenic substances such as killer cigarettes and poisonous alcohol - for your own good and safety of course!

[ppyvabw]

Kin_Free.......

Finally someone who talks sense......well done you!!

Climate research is funded by the governments, and if the research contradicts global warming, they don't get more funding, so suprise suprise the research actually always supports global warming.

[themarkofpolo]

Research performed by industry in its own products also often produces biased results. Surprise, surprise.

While many people and institutions attempt to maintain an unbiased perspective, it is often difficult to do so when individual motives drive the work.

As I mentioned before, I can understand if someone doesn't believe in global warming or climate change. I personally think something is going on.

Inappropriate use of our natural resources can be seen at local levels. Pollution can be seen at local levels. The impacts of our actions do affect local and regional levels. Many of the following can be seen at local/regional levels and are attributed in part or in whole to human interference:

Soil erosion and Desertification
Aquifer depletion
Fierce wildfires
Surface and ground water quality issues

Why?
Soil loss and desertification--monoculture, not rotating crops, overfertilizing, overwatering, leaving tilled soil bare, overgrazing, removing wind barriers, riparian zone destruction, clear cutting

Aquifer depletion--overwatering, watering lawns (growing water-needing non-native grass), 5-gallon toilets, deforestation (trees help absorb water)...

Bad wildfires--inhibiting ANY natural fire (thus creating A LOT of kindling), not performing controlled burns, insects (native or not) surviving MILD winters and killing numerous trees (more kindling)...

Water quality--CAFOs (confined animal feeding operations) for poultry, swine, and cattle, mining, vehicle emissions (parking lot runoff), deregulated industries

The environment is seen as a 'public good' and that's why we individually cringe when something must be done, but instead wish that 'they' would just make it all better. State and local govts are more attuned to citizens than the feds, so that's where detailed regs should be. The general umbrella regs probably belong at the federal level.

[ale_ginger_ale]

of course global warming exists! who could think it doesnt? even WITH biased results... the results we HAVE seen are horrific! unless the half of the information we HAVENT seen contains miracles of sorts, we should definitly start funding this recovery. who in the world is concerned about money when we're losing our only habitable planet? there is NO backup plan for the human race if we lose the earth!

[JeffreyM]

There are some idiots who think global warming doesn't exist!!! :eek:

What are they thinking? Why? How do they think logically?

Gee Christmas time when the whole extended family gets together for a joyous time... It took me about 30 minutes this year before I was completely disgusted with someone in my family and wished I could just throw them out of the house. My brother jumped up on his soap box and started preaching how global warming was created by the Democrats and the liberal media. As if this wasn't annoying enough when questioned about the scientific evidence of changes to our planet he just preached how it was all created by the Democrats.



To those who think that Global warming is real - Please read this - It is an article by Dr David Evans who was a consultant to the Australian Greenhouse Office from 1999 to 2005. (very well qualified in global warming science) You may find it very informative.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24036736-7583,00.html

You should be aware that Global Warming is being used as a vehicle to engender fear and subsequent passive compliance of the population so governments can impose any number of restrictions on your life, claim more revenue, and enact more laws to control YOU. It ranks along with the fear of terrorism eg surveillance, ID cards, DNA database etc. (Just watch what the response is to the Mumbai terrorist situation) and the fear of health - eg smoking ban, tax on alcohol, and 'clamp down' on 'binge drinking'. They are all intended to produce 'moral panics' - all a form of brainwashing. Do not fall for it!!

You should also note that in EVERY occasion they NEVER have sufficient evidence but rely on constant propaganda that you are subjected to daily - so you will do what you are told - to save the planet, protect you from terrorists, and filthy carcinogenic substances such as killer cigarettes and poisonous alcohol - for your own good and safety of course!

Now this is a well thought out and supported arguement. Heck of a lot better than the Democrats did it.

I don't know the subject matter well of enough to say without a doubt that global warming exists and that it is the building blocks for a total global climate shift, but I do believe there are significant signs indicating that it does exist.

The biggest concern seems to be the polar ice caps melting.

[katiebelle]

I can see plenty of reasons why certain people choose not to believe. Though i dont see a scientific fact as something you can believe in or not.
I am an environmental science student at uni and I know that the majority of people out there know barely any actual facts about "global warming". yeah Im not goign to go as far as to say i dont believe in it, but alot of the "facts" that you guys hear is either utter crap or is exagerated a hell of a lot.

How many of you knew that from the 40's to the 70's there was major concern that the world was going into global cooling? it was marked as the reason we were able to win parts of world war II. They were scared we were going to go into an ice age.

that was down to misscalculated data, ignoring other data, and ignoring other trends in climate.

governments and the media can be very prone to overreaction when it comes to this sort of thing. i can see reasons why people choose not to accept that global warming is an enevitable thing that we all need to drop everything and change for. our climate has changed before and changed rapidly. there are, in my opinion many other, bigger, more pressing environmental issues out there.

[mica8911]

global warming exists? yes

is it our fault? not in the least

problem? leading the public into thinking we are so great and powerful that we could cause this very natural process, and even worse leading the public to think we can stop this very natural process, even more arrogance.