Why do we need guns ?

[bowman]

In America, i understand there is so much of gun culture, which has spread like wild fire to all countries. What if there is no gun at all, won't there be less crime? A gun can never do anything constructive, it can only harm others. I feel, only the military and police should carry a gun or any ammunition not civilians of any country. These classroom shootouts which regularly happen in USA will also come to an end.

What do you all think of this ?

[oo87]

It may have been that way in the beginning, but it isn't so easy anymore. You can't just dissolve the second amendment in the US, and if you managed to, taking the guns out of people who hold them legally will not stop crime at all, because those who have them illegally will still have them.

[ross]

The simple fact is we dont in concept but nothing ever goes to plan does it.

The national defence units should be the only people who should be licensed to use guns and own them as they could use them very efficiantly but these days any one can get his hands on one for a price.

[RBseatown]

The simple fact is we dont in concept but nothing ever goes to plan does it.

The national defence units should be the only people who should be licensed to use guns and own them as they could use them very efficiantly but these days any one can get his hands on one for a price.

I am not sure if you are from the US or not, but in the US the right to bare arms is part of the constitution, and I truly believe every citizen should have that right. I am not saying that everyone should have an automatic weapon, but if someone wants a handgun to protect them and their family they should be allowed to own one.

It comes down to the right to protect yourself, from either criminals or the government itself.

[shailbpl]

The Gun doesnt kill. Its the bullet which kills. Keeping Guns at home for protection against thiefs and robbers can be alright but the ammunication should be such that it should not kill.....it should rather immobilise. That way, the problem of suicide, children and other shootings & killings could be avoided.

[Liquid]

I think Americans have already realised that the citizens' rights to have their own guns are doing more harm than good. But it's almost impossible to force Americans to surrender their guns as they've been living with guns for so long, guns are already everywhere, including in the hands of all criminals. Possession of guns in the US definitely encourages crimes, killings and suicides.

[bowman]

Yes, you are right. If you control American people by disarming them with new legislation or whatever with a good novel idea, then the whole world will follow suit. I can hardly recollect a Hollywood movie with a scene of gun, no wonder many of the young men are having guns. I do not understand why somebody has to hold a gun, you know when you use it, you are going to get imprisoned, then why the hell you want to have it?



I think Americans have already realised that the citizens' rights to have their own guns are doing more harm than good. But it's almost impossible to force Americans to surrender their guns as they've been living with guns for so long, guns are already everywhere, including in the hands of all criminals. Possession of guns in the US definitely encourages crimes, killings and suicides.

[RBseatown]

I think Americans have already realised that the citizens' rights to have their own guns are doing more harm than good. But it's almost impossible to force Americans to surrender their guns as they've been living with guns for so long, guns are already everywhere, including in the hands of all criminals. Possession of guns in the US definitely encourages crimes, killings and suicides.

Gun control should definitely be looked at. The only reason guns have done more harm than good is because we have not had a reason to use them as civilians yet. When the day comes that civilians will need weapons your opinion may be different.

[Liquid]

Gun control should definitely be looked at. The only reason guns have done more harm than good is because we have not had a reason to use them as civilians yet. When the day comes that civilians will need weapons your opinion may be different.

The only time civilians will need guns is when US got attacked or something. Where the civilians will need to defend themselves. In such situation I believe guns can be useful. But today they are just abused.

[onethreeseven]

In America, i understand there is so much of gun culture, which has spread like wild fire to all countries. What if there is no gun at all, won't there be less crime? A gun can never do anything constructive, it can only harm others. I feel, only the military and police should carry a gun or any ammunition not civilians of any country. These classroom shootouts which regularly happen in USA will also come to an end.

What do you all think of this ?

You say guns can never do anything constructive, yet why do you advocate centrally organizing societies around a group of people with a bunch of guns i.e. the state? Obviously you think they CAN do something constructive.

[onethreeseven]

The only time civilians will need guns is when US got attacked or something. Where the civilians will need to defend themselves. In such situation I believe guns can be useful. But today they are just abused.

I have a gun. I have used it to kill birds and eat them.

[Gmorkster]

You know the saying: Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

I own a gun, even though the right to posess one is *extremely* limited in my country. I got the right to get it because I transfer large amounts of cash to the bank daily, I was ambushed once in a James Bond movie style and they stole a bag with around $70,000 off the back seat of my car.

I must say that if you're a normal person you'll never even think of abusing your right to hold a gun. Being in the PR business I must say I meet lots of idiots, people who drive me nuts, but I never felt like pulling the gun. I get mad, I yell at my employees, I sometimes even break things up, but the gun stays holstered.

[Kablum]

In America, i understand there is so much of gun culture, which has spread like wild fire to all countries. What if there is no gun at all, won't there be less crime? A gun can never do anything constructive, it can only harm others. I feel, only the military and police should carry a gun or any ammunition not civilians of any country. These classroom shootouts which regularly happen in USA will also come to an end.

What do you all think of this ?

I think, that you are not a redblooded american. Do you not even realize how hard our forefathers fought to GIVE you those rights, laid down in the constitution?! The answer is no, increase gun control (as if we haven't already) and crime does not go down, because all gun control is is laws. Think about it, if we are worried about CRIMINALS getting their hands on weapons, do you think that those CRIMINALS will care if they have to break 2 or 3 more laws to get guns?!?!?! NO. The only result is that common, ordinary citizens would be carted off to jail by simply owning a gun, which is not wrong, because we have the right by the constitution! And you wanna know what caused the classroom shootouts? hmm? think you can listen just for a sec?

Evolution
yes, thats right
these kids are not only in a hormonally imbalanced time in their life, but they are learning in school that they are descended from nothing but slime and have no purpose in life and are, in fact, accidents, what do you expect?! Depression+drugs+clouded thoughts+self-unworth=columbine
you think that if there were more laws, that kid wouldnt have gotten that gun? No, he just woulda gone through black market, dirty dealers, and thieves to get it. nothing would have changed.

Don't think that taking away our right to bear arms will decrease crime, seriously...

[onethreeseven]

Evolution
yes, thats right
these kids are not only in a hormonally imbalanced time in their life, but they are learning in school that they are descended from nothing but slime and have no purpose in life and are, in fact, accidents, what do you expect?! Depression+drugs+clouded thoughts+self-unworth=columbine


I realize from your posts elsewhere that you are against evolution and all, but claiming a biological theory (or hypothesis :p) is responsible for school shootings is a pretty whacked out explaination. A biology class shouldn't make people depressed unless they are getting an F or there is something else that is depressing them.

Why not place the blame on something much more obvious like a shitty parenting job combined with a process of desensitization toward violence? Going out a bit further on the limb, you could blame it on the fact that children are herded into prison-like schools by the state where they are in the unnatural situation of being surrounded by a bunch of other children all day. You could go even further out and blame the post-modernist, moral-relativistic philosophy that dominates everything from academia to the media to religion. Then maybe you can fall completely out of the tree and say that they were upset at what their biology teacher told them.

[Kablum]

You disagree? You don't think that learning in biology class that you have zero importance in life will make kids depressed enough to take it out on others? How about you combine that with teenager hormones, at a point when they are already getting depressed cause they think they have no friends or anything like that. Now can it? How about drug abuse?

No, you are gonna throw it out there that it happened because he was forced into the system of public education?

That system is not a new idea, but evolution and school shootings are rather more recent, hmm?

[onethreeseven]

You disagree? You don't think that learning in biology class that you have zero importance in life will make kids depressed enough to take it out on others? How about you combine that with teenager hormones, at a point when they are already getting depressed cause they think they have no friends or anything like that. Now can it? How about drug abuse?

No, you are gonna throw it out there that it happened because he was forced into the system of public education?

That system is not a new idea, but evolution and school shootings are rather more recent, hmm?

First off, the public education system as we know it, has its roots in the early 1800's in Prussia. So, it predates evolutionary theory merely by a few decades. Secondly, I just threw that out there as just one of three better explainations than blaming it on biology class. You conveniently ignored the one I said was most likely, which is the parents. I'll wager this is because you're like most fundamentalists and have a huge fetish for the family.

Even if they were depressed about evolution, it hardly explains why tens of millions of kids learn about evolution and don't go on to shoot up the school. There was obviously much more than that and your over simplification of a complex social problem is laughable.

[Liquid]

I have a gun. I have used it to kill birds and eat them.

That's definitely one of the uses of guns. But it's not important for most people. Even in this time of economic crisis people don't need to hunt birds to survive. :p

[Lorena_Palin]

Thing with guns is I really don't trust our government to protect me in any crisis...now...if all the bad guys have them, why shouldn't I?

Now...saying "what if there were no guns" is stupid, because then we would just have swords, and bows, and catapults that fired dead dogs with the plague into the enemy's water supplies.

And then someone would come up with something just as deadly, and it wouldn't really matter.

[katiebelle]

in australia we have had very strick gun laws for years. basically only the defence systems are allowed them (police, army etc), and certain people who live in the country. yeah people still do get them on the black market, but our levels of gun violence are stageringly lower than the U.S.'s. i personally do not get the thing that americans have about your "rights" we have rights here but no one gets all uppitty about it. im not claiming that australia is a better country or anything just that i dont understand why, just because it says in your bill of rights, that everyday human being should have the right to carry a weapon like that.

[katiebelle]

You disagree? You don't think that learning in biology class that you have zero importance in life will make kids depressed enough to take it out on others? How about you combine that with teenager hormones, at a point when they are already getting depressed cause they think they have no friends or anything like that. Now can it? How about drug abuse?

No, you are gonna throw it out there that it happened because he was forced into the system of public education?

That system is not a new idea, but evolution and school shootings are rather more recent, hmm?

most kids that go on shooting spree's are depresed or upset because of reasons other than being taught evolution. ive never heard that one blamed before.
parents teaching their kids that guns are ok and normal is a big one.
parents telling their kids that they are not good enough is a big one.
chemical imbalances in the brain is a big one.
kids being kids, being cruel to one another is a big one.
ive never heard of evolution making kids think that they are not important in anyway.