More troops for Afghanistan

[giorgio]

President elect Obama has said he plans to send 20,000 more troops down to Afhanistan. The amount of military operations going on around the world is ludicrous. Isn't it time to change all this?

[oo87]

I think that part of the point of this action is to move troops from Iraq, and then begin regular length rotations into Afghanistan to stabilize the region and catch Bin Laden. This is where we should have been all along, where the war started, and had we I think the majority of the conflict would have long been over. Now, because we are only acting now, it's just beginning all over again. And the Taliban has been able to once again gain a foothold.

[bowman]

I always support both wars be it Iraq or Afghanistan, both were started in good faith by President Bush and even now they are doing it for noble cause, so many military men have sacrificed their lives, we should respect them. Maybe when Obama becomes president, he will nab Osama in Afghanistan.

[oo87]

I always support both wars be it Iraq or Afghanistan, both were started in good faith by President Bush and even now they are doing it for noble cause, so many military men have sacrificed their lives, we should respect them. Maybe when Obama becomes president, he will nab Osama in Afghanistan.

I wouldn't say the reasons were very noble...the information that WMD's were in Iraq came from a criminal seeking asylum from the US, and we offered it to him for information on Iraq. He admitted it wasn't true, and people in government have said there was no proof that warranted us to go there.

However, with Cheney's affiliations with Haliburton, and Bush's past working with oil, and the relationship between the Saudi's and the Bush family, it was a profit venture, that has become very obvious. We took out a dictator, yes, but it wasn't out place. And Now the country is in disarray. They only have about an hour of electricity a day, there are huge sewage problems, and continued tensions and attacks from extremist groups which gained a foothold because of our involvement.

We didn't go after Bin Laden because of the profitable arms deals that would be lost. We are still providing money and weapons to the Taliban, in one way or another.

None of that sounds noble to me.

[RBseatown]

I always support both wars be it Iraq or Afghanistan, both were started in good faith by President Bush and even now they are doing it for noble cause, so many military men have sacrificed their lives, we should respect them. Maybe when Obama becomes president, he will nab Osama in Afghanistan.

I really, really doubt that the reasons for invading those countries were actually noble, but that is a whole different issue. Afghanistan is worse than Iraq at the moment, and more troops are going to be needed there to calm the situation down. I really don't feel that we should be in either place at all, really. What's the point? What are we getting out of it? National Security? I know having our troops in Afghanistan doesn't make me feel any more secure.

[Liquid]

I always support both wars be it Iraq or Afghanistan, both were started in good faith by President Bush and even now they are doing it for noble cause, so many military men have sacrificed their lives, we should respect them. Maybe when Obama becomes president, he will nab Osama in Afghanistan.

That's like saying you support more killings. The US is not there to help the people, they have other intentions. The death rates increased tremendously after Americans came in with their soldiers. Ask the Middle Easterns what is their biggest problem now and they would say the US (You can just chat with them and ask). They sure know the situation better than any of us.

[shailbpl]

what we found in iraq and afghanistan was that the government lies with impunity. [some of us already were aware of this fact.] what i would like to see is the world court taking the bush administration to task and posting charges of crimes against humanity on them all. since most of congress agreed to it, we obviously can't expect the us to police ourselves on this matter. i am counting on all of you to do it for me!

[bowman]

Mate, i too know they must be knowing the situation surely better than us, but you should also understand that the same middle easterners were instrumental in 9/11. Will they ever support Americans and say you are doing, right?


That's like saying you support more killings. The US is not there to help the people, they have other intentions. The death rates increased tremendously after Americans came in with their soldiers. Ask the Middle Easterns what is their biggest problem now and they would say the US (You can just chat with them and ask). They sure know the situation better than any of us.

[bowman]

I support Bush because he is bold ruler, he has fought two wars and won both. How good his relations were with the Saudi rulers, are all behind the curtain news. What we see is, he is a brave ruler of America and i wish we too have a ruler like him in our country. People are against terrorism, when someone fights them, he becomes a wrong ruler. I do not understand, why we should not support a brave man like Bush.



I wouldn't say the reasons were very noble...the information that WMD's were in Iraq came from a criminal seeking asylum from the US, and we offered it to him for information on Iraq. He admitted it wasn't true, and people in government have said there was no proof that warranted us to go there.

However, with Cheney's affiliations with Haliburton, and Bush's past working with oil, and the relationship between the Saudi's and the Bush family, it was a profit venture, that has become very obvious. We took out a dictator, yes, but it wasn't out place. And Now the country is in disarray. They only have about an hour of electricity a day, there are huge sewage problems, and continued tensions and attacks from extremist groups which gained a foothold because of our involvement.

We didn't go after Bin Laden because of the profitable arms deals that would be lost. We are still providing money and weapons to the Taliban, in one way or another.

None of that sounds noble to me.

[Liquid]

Mate, i too know they must be knowing the situation surely better than us, but you should also understand that the same middle easterners were instrumental in 9/11. Will they ever support Americans and say you are doing, right?

A lot of experts and Americans themselves believe that the real terrorists behind 9/11 are not the Middle Easterners. You can read many articles and watch many videos on this, and they all make sense. It's just a propaganda to make people believe the US is trying to fight terrorism, while they are actually terrorising the Middle East. You need more than one source of info.

[ppyvabw]

Not being in Iraq and Afghanistan is the same as letting evil dictators and tyrants such as Saddam kill, oppress and torture the population.

Both wars were right and just, and the US and UK need to stay there to finish the job.

[Liquid]

Not being in Iraq and Afghanistan is the same as letting evil dictators and tyrants such as Saddam kill, oppress and torture the population.

Both wars were right and just, and the US and UK need to stay there to finish the job.

The truth is the US invaded the Middle East not because to help the Middle Easterns in any way. They started the unnecessary war for their own importance and nothing else. It's sad how so many people actually believe the Americans are heroes in the war.

[ppyvabw]

The truth is the US invaded the Middle East not because to help the Middle Easterns in any way. They started the unnecessary war for their own importance and nothing else. It's sad how so many people actually believe the Americans are heroes in the war.

Presumably having made that statement you can back it up with some hard evidence rather than just hear-say.

[Liquid]

Presumably having made that statement you can back it up with some hard evidence rather than just hear-say.

Can you prove that there are actually a bunch of dictators and evil terrorist groups in the Middle East terrorising the locals? Can you prove that Americans and their allies are fighting terrorists? Or are they fighting the locals who are trying to defend their lands?

The mainstream media is full of propaganda.

[ppyvabw]

Well yes I can actually, my brother has worked in Afghanistan and Iraq and seen the insurgency for himself.

[Liquid]

Well your brother can't know much as he was not involved in the so-called "war on terrorism" himself. And even if he went there as a soldier he would only obey commands from the people above him. The US until now cannot prove that they are fighting terrorists. They only talk about it but not in details.

[ppyvabw]

He was not a solider, he was a civilian working for an aerial surveilance company.

Are you saying Suddam Hussein was not a tyrant and didn't commit mass murder?

[onethreeseven]

The terrorists are just doing to America what they did to the Soviet Union back in the 80's: Get them bogged down in a lengthy insurgency, which greatly contributes to their economic collapse. America even taught them that tactic.

[saad]

President elect Obama has said he plans to send 20,000 more troops down to Afhanistan. The amount of military operations going on around the world is ludicrous. Isn't it time to change all this?

I agree with you and yes...its time to change...but the change initiated by obama is even worse....20K more troops thats worse decision than Bush.

[therookie]

And another 30,000 troops heading to Afghanistan!

Not to forget the 56,000 contractors going with them...

Erm is this just a numbers game?